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CHAPTER III : ANSWERING THE ISSUES
Before the judgments and decisions of the local ecclesiastical authorities on the House of God the Father, especially on Thien Thuong and Father Dominic Nguyen Chu Truyen, God has allowed us to make our voices heard not to justify or condemn but to speak the truth with a spirit of constructive communion.
Issue 1: Many people think that the words and deeds of the people at the House of God the Father are not true, that they are acting, and that their words and deeds are from Satan.
1. The Truth from the House of God the Father
First of all, please familiarize yourself with two phrases:
* “Realistic Word of God”: This is the Word of God the Father written by Thien Thuong’s handwriting to reveal God’s Will to teach people.
* “Eternal Word of God”: This is the Word of God in the Bible.
These phrases are taught by God the Father himself, not coined by Thien Thuong.
1.1 The truth about the Realistic Word of God
Maria Nguyen Chu Thien Thuong is given the blessing to write the Word of God the Father, which is the Realistic Word of God to teach those who want to seek God’s Will for their life, want to be healed and converted, and want to believe and love God. She does not write anything other than the Word of God taught in the Gospel and the Teachings of the Church. What she writes does not replace the Eternal Word of God in the Bible.
1.2 The way the Word of God manifested:
First of all, Thien Thuong prays to God. Then the Spirit of the Holy Spirit acts on her hand and pushes the pen to move (starting at 00h on October 28, 2013). Presently, the notebooks of God’s Word are still kept at the House of God the Father. The real witnesses who have received blessings thanks to the effectiveness of God’s Word written by Thien Thuong’s handwriting have given testimonies in more than 353 Videos of “The Voice of the Truth” domestically and abroad.
1.3 Those who have been chosen by God
Those who have been chosen by God are Thien Thuong, the four priests: Father Dominic, Father Martin, Father Peter, Father Paul and “the Army of Light.” God uses them each in a different way to work in his divine plan. To be used by God, they were purified and instructed by him: they need to make sacrifices, to pray unceasingly, to fast and exercise self-restraint, to live in modesty and to be humble oneself, to love, to forgive, and to give up their own will and worldly things like money, fame, and passions in order to work wholeheartedly for God. When they have been able to do these things, God uses their hands to do his work of healing the sick, especially they must physically endure the sufferings and pains from patients when demons from patients are allowed to enter into their bodies.
1.4 The blessings God gives to the patients
when the patients come to the House of God the Father, they themselves must strive to live according to what God teaches in order to be healed by him. Many people have received the blessing of faith, conversion, and healing. They have voluntarily testified for God, his love and mercy in the program of “The Voice of the Truth.”
1.5 The truth of the life of those who are living in house of God the Father
All the people living in the House of God the Father love each other, they all in one heart and one mind in prayer, sharing and helping each other tasks under the direction of God himself. They love God, Mother Mary, the angels and saints. They pray constantly and are connected to God through the YouTube channel of “The Way to Heaven”. This channel was created by the Will of God to help people joining in to pray for the world and for souls.
2. Are the people belonging to the House of God the Father acting or real people doing real things?
2.1 Many people believe that “The Voice of the Truth”
videos are acting however they are not providing any specific proof of evidences. For example, have they gone to the place by themselves to meet actors/actresses or props for the plays? Meanwhile, all the witnesses on all of the videos have left their personal phone numbers, they are available for direct dialogue with those who have concerns or questions.
2.2 If it is assumed that
those videos are staged or acting, a question is raised, “what for and for what benefits?” Do those who work for God at the House of God the Father like to be humiliated, or are they so eccentric and foolish that their friends and relatives cut them off from contact and stay away? Are they so crazy that they have been accused by the local ecclesiastical authorities of “disobedience to the local ordinaries” and then convicted and punished as stubborn and dangerous criminals? If it was a play, this script would be very boring, for it has been lasting for many years with the same contents calling people to convert, return to God, live according to the teaching of God: fasting, sacrifice, praying constantly, love, forgive, be modest, humble, give up passions, and attend daily Mass.
2.3 To answer for the question
of why some people considered the works at the House of God the Father are acting as follows:
So, should the question be changed as follows: why do some people consider the works at the House of God the Father to be acting? It is possible that the phenomena of patients being healed by God were beyond their understanding and belief, or they cannot understand and accept God’s power through healing phenomena. It is also possible that in terms of faith and canon law they see that they have the power to heal and cast out demons, but, in reality, they cannot because healing does not happen and demons do not come out. Therefore, they conclude for themselves that exorcism at the House of God the Father is fake, and it is just acting because, for them, healing and exorcism is very difficult and very rare, and not as easy and frequent as at the House of God the Father.
2.4 Another point is if it is a play,
why do these people often call and implore the bishops, who have the authority to send exorcists or doctors to investigate and find out whether patients are physically sick or demon-possessed, and whether they are healed by medicine or by the power of God? If it is fake, are these people not afraid that the fake play will be brought to light?
Some people think that the witnesses in the program of “The Voice of the Truth” have been bribed, lured, coerced, that the program is staged, acting, and not real, and that it is due to the way of thinking and the freedom of expression of each person. Nevertheless, “you will know the tree by the fruit.” Please, look at the daily life of those witnesses to see if they live according to what they have testified.
However, among those witnesses there are also some people who have betrayed what they have witnessed and testified because they were manipulated by Satan when they did not practice exactly the teachings of God the Father. God gives them freedom. For example, the disciples of Jesus were those who witnessed the miracles of the Lord and were taught by him directly, but there were also disciples who abandoned the Lord. Especially among the apostles of the Lord, there were people who denied God, abandoned God, betrayed and sold God like Judas Iscariot. “But woe to that man who betrays the Son of Man! It would be better for him if he had not been born.” (Mk 14:21).
3. Do exorcism and healing of the sick at the House of God the Father come from God or Satan?
3.1 If they come from Satan,
+ Then, “house will fall against house” even when they rely on “the prince of demons to drives out demons.” If Satan is divided against himself, how will his kingdom stand? Because if “it is by Beelzebul that I drive out demons by whom do your own people drive them out?” (cf. Lk 11:15-19). Until today, those who work in the Army of Light are filled with God’s love and grace daily. Everyone is increasing their prayers and becoming more aware of the mission of evangelization, healing, and exorcism.
+ The exorcist will be tormented by the devil himself and his soul will be robbed: ” God did extraordinary miracles through Paul, so that even handkerchiefs and aprons that had touched him were taken to the sick, and their illnesses were cured and the evil spirits left them. Some Jews who went around driving out evil spirits tried to invoke the name of the Lord Jesus over those who were demon-possessed. They would say, ‘In the name of the Jesus whom Paul preaches, I command you to come out.’ Seven sons of Sceva, a Jewish chief priest, were doing this. One day the evil spirit answered them, “Jesus I know, and Paul I know about, but who are you?” Then the man who had the evil spirit jumped on them and overpowered them all. He gave them such a beating that they ran out of the house naked and bleeding.” (Acts 19:11-17). In the Father’s house until this moment, people still see a healthy and beautiful Thien Thuong, despite working day and night. They still see a 74-year-old priest, Father Dominic, still pray and work like a young man… the people in the House of God the Father are still peaceful and happy.
3.2 Where is the evidence that shows that the conviction is correct?
If people think that the work we are doing is from the devil, please prove it to us before condemning us. Where is the evidence that shows that the conviction is correct?
In order to give authentic evidence, the basic principle is to observe, investigate, and verify. Once upon a time, when he saw Jesus being unjustly condemned, Nicodemus said: “Does our law permit condemnation of anyone before hearing him or knowing what he is doing?” (Jn 7:51). Does everyone also condemn us before hearing and knowing what we are doing? Everyone has condemned us while they have not come here to examine and evaluate the facts. In a trial, a fair judge is someone who listens to both sides: the defendant and the plaintiff. I wonder whether everyone really listens to us or not. If not, is it fair that everyone condemns us?
People do not know that in order for the divine plan of salvation of God at the House of God the Father in Bao Loc to be known by many people, God wants Thien Thuong and the priests to have a holy, modest, and humble life to set an example for others. God wants them to give up everything to completely belong to God, to live according to the example of Jesus, and to follow the holy life of the saints. And not only that, God wants those who follow him at the House of God the Father and those who work in his divine plan to fast for life, pray continuously, exercise sacrifice and self-restraint, love, forgive, be modest and humble oneself, give up passions, and do everything according to the will of God the Father. How can Satan know how to live and meet the above requirements? Only those who are living in the grace of God can do these things and the fruit that is born in them is the fruit of the Holy Spirit.
So, when people condemn the divine plan of the House of God the Father coming from Satan, aren’t people condemning the very Holy Spirit? And what is the sin against the Holy Spirit? Jesus says, “Truly I tell you, people can be forgiven all their sins and every slander they utter, but whoever blasphemes against the Holy Spirit will never be forgiven; they are guilty of an eternal sin” (Mk 3:28-29). The Lord spoke these words to his disciples, after the teachers of the law said, “He is possessed by Beelzebul! By the prince of demons he is driving out demons.” (Mk 3:22). The House of God the Father is the divine plan of salvation of God, and it is guided by the very spirit of the Holy Spirit with gifts and good fruits born of those who believe and practice what God commands, but people consider it to be from Satan. God is heartbroken because he is being opposed and condemned by the very people he loves. May those who are condemning the divine plan of God to reconsider, for this is a great insult to the divine plan of God and his boundless love.
3.3 Can be concluded
Thus, it can be concluded that what we are doing here comes from God. Jesus says, “You will know a tree by its fruit. No good tree bears bad fruit, nor does a bad tree bear good fruit.” (Luke 6:43). Therefore, the fruits that are produced from the House of God the Father, the acts of charity and love that are shown through the enthusiastic welcoming of the patients and sinners, giving of time and energy, and the selfless sacrifices when praying for people and healing them are the proofs that what we are doing are from God. It is God who wants us to do his Will, and we do not do anything on our own will. Just as Jesus Christ obeyed God the Father, we follow the example of Jesus and obey and do the Will of God the Father.
It is because people do not know the true nature of the work we are doing, and they only look outside and listen to public opinions, and then have prejudices, jealousy, envy, pride from within, many people fail to realize the fruits of our charity and love for our patients when we are completely obedient to the Will of God the Father. Just as Saint Paul professed faith in the situation when he was forbidden to preach the Gospel and bear witness to God, so now we use his words to profess our faith, “We must obey God rather than obeying men” (Acts 5:29).
And the words that we say and the things that we do testify for us about the fact that these actions are from God. All that is brought to light is “said openly before people, and we speak nothing in secret” (Jn 18:20).
We ourselves are the witnesses who have been healed by God the Father, converted by God the Father, and chosen by God the Father in his divine plan to help people turn away from their sins and return to God. People don’t believe our work, but we testify with our lives that our words and deeds come from God the Father. And God the Father himself will testify for us.
All of our activities are guided, activated, and motivated by the power of the Spirit of the Holy Spirit, so that we can always walk in the light, in the way of God.
Issue 2: Why is it said that God the Father is incarnated in the statue of the Infant Jesus at the House of God the Father?
The Catechism of the Catholic Church teaches that “The Holy Trinity is a mystery of faith in the strict sense, one of the “mysteries that are hidden in God, which can never be known unless they are revealed by God.” (SPF 16) (CCC 237). Therefore, in this regard, we would like to quote the original Word of God taught to the people in the House of God the Father on April 8, 2022 at 8:58 AM.
“For the Catholic Church, there is only one Mystery of Faith: Jesus alone, the second person of God, came to earth incarnated. The Holy Trinity is one God, but each person has a different task: the Father creates, the Son redeems and the Holy Spirit sanctifies, the Holy Trinity does different common works. From the human point of view, it is assumed that the three tasks of each person are unrelated; there is respect for each other’s works. But that is human thinking because, with the mystery of faith of the Catholic Church, it always believes that the Holy Trinity is one God, and there is always unity, reciprocity, and mutual support. Therefore, when God the Father gives each person a different task, it does not mean that the Holy Trinity separates the works from each other. The Father creates, but in creation, in redemption, in sanctification, the Holy Trinity is always intimately united with each other. Therefore, it was not wrong for God the Father to say that he was incarnated in the statue of the Infant Jesus. For the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit are one God. When Jesus Christ came to earth as a man, there was always the unity of God the Father in Jesus Christ.
In the way of human thinking and interpretation, there is shallow understanding of God’s works, progresses, and plans. People only understand literally and can only understand to a certain extent of the mysteries of faith, the progresses and the divine plan of God, so it is assumed that only the Son of God incarnated as man, and there are no other gods incarnate as man. First of all, no other God incarnated as a human. They think that they know God, know about the mystery of the Holy Trinity and they profess that the Holy Trinity is one God, but why do they object when it said that God the Father incarnates in the statue of the Infant Jesus, considered it wrong? This goes against their conviction of the mystery of faith, the mystery of the Holy Trinity. Three persons of God, but there is only one God. In other words, it is said that the Father incarnates or the Son incarnates to be only one God. Humans should not separate the Holy Trinity.
Issue 3: About the subject matter of “angelic pregnancy”
The Christian faith has always been rooted from the Bible. From the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth. Both angels and humans were created perfect. God turned from nothing into having everything. Among all the creatures and things, animals, and people.
Angels are always waiting in the presence of God to praise him. “God created mankind in his image; in the image of God he created them; male and female he created them” (cf. Gen 1:27). When God created the heavens and the earth, he had power over all things. With the love God has for mankind, he allowed them to live happily in the Garden of Eden with him.
But because man was arrogant, wanting to be as smart as God, disobeying God when he ate the forbidden fruit, therefore God had to exile him out of the Garden of Eden. Thereafter mankind had to suffer, worked hard, and no longer able to live happily with him (cf. Gen 3:17-19). However, God did not forsake mankind. He still had mercy on human kind and promised to give them a Savior (cf. Gen 3:15). Through the image of the Virgin who will crush the serpent’s head, and at the time of salvation, the second person of God was born through the womb of the Virgin Mary, the Immaculate One to save people from sin, from all the powers of Satan. And the second person of God, Jesus Christ overcame the powers of darkness when he rose from the dead three days later. He promised when he ascended to heaven, he would send down the Paraclete to accompany and be with humans forever (cf. Jn 14:16). This is the Era of the Holy Spirit.
The Holy Spirit was sent into the world by God the Father in the name of Jesus Christ. He always accompanies, protects and uplifts people. He could do all things because he is also God, the Spirit of Truth. But the world did not accept him. “The Spirit of truth, whom the world cannot receive, because it neither sees him nor knows him. You know him, for he dwells with you and will be in you” (cf. Jn 14, 17).
Although the world did not accept, the Holy Spirit is still at work and present in this world. The Holy Spirit continues to help and save people to return to God the Father. He reminds people the Word Jesus had taught (cf. Jn 14:16). He helps people to realize God is a powerful and merciful Father. The divine plan of salvation of God will continue when Jesus himself promised to be with man forever until the end of the world (cf. Mt 28:20). Therefore, in today’s world the Holy Spirit is always at work and continues the divine plan of salvation.
According to the Catholic Church when not understanding of faith, of the mystery of God such as the mystery of the Holy Trinity, then concluded as “this is the Mystery of Faith”, a mystery that exceeds the human understanding. When theologians could not find the cause or prove it visually, then they considered it is a mystery. A mystery can only come from God. Only those who have been revealed by God know the mystery. God’s ways beyond human understanding. What seems to be paradoxical is that God only reveals the mystery to the simple and the little ones. “I praise you, Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because you have hidden these things from the wise and learned, and revealed them to little children.” (Mt 11:25). It is true that “Oh, the depth of the riches of the wisdom and knowledge of God! How unsearchable his judgments, and his paths beyond tracing out!” (Romans 11:33). The Holy Spirit is sovereign. He gives grace to each individual according to his Will (cf. 1 Cor 12, 11). No one has the right to force God to do his/her personal will. God’s plan can never be thwarted.
In this era, God the Father revealed to people. He chose Thien Thuong, the priests, and those who work in the divine plan of God to understand partially his path. God revealed in this era, the angels embody in humans through the Spirit of God.
God allowed Father Dominic and Thien Thuong to lay on of hands, through the divine plan of the Holy Spirit, an “angelic fetus” would be formed in the womb of a woman. “Angelic fetus” is a way of calling that God revealed to humanity. God also made known an “angelic pregnancy” to be a pregnant of an angel. With the influence of the Holy Spirit through the laying on of hands of Father Dominic or Thien Thuong on the head of an individual person to receive an “angelic pregnancy” or not is up to the Will of God. With the power of the Holy Spirit, God allows the “angelic fetus” in the womb of a mother, without the need for a conjugal relationship. It is permissible for God to allow “angelic fetus” to embody in human, even in those who are single. No one has the right to condemn or judge the work of the Holy Spirit. When mankind doesn’t open up his heart, he cannot believe. Therefore, it is no surprise many people think these works of God came from Satan.
God is Omnipotent. He made the second person came to earth as a human under the influence of the Holy Spirit. Now angels incarnate as human beings, or having “angelic pregnancies” if they are the Will of God, they will happen, because “With God nothing is impossible” (Lk 1:37). In the New Testament, besides Mary who conceived the second person of God by the power of the Holy Spirit, there was also Elisabeth. Elisabeth also became pregnant in her old age and whose child was predestined by God to be the last prophet to prepare the way for the Lord. Through Saint John, the Forerunner, the Holy Spirit completed the preparation of the hearts of the people to be readily of receiving the Lord (cf. Lk 1:17). Elisabeth was filled with the Holy Spirit, joyfully recognizing God in Mary. John in her womb also leaped for joy because Mary brought the Lord to the visitation (cf. Lk 1:39-45).
In this New Era, God also had intervened to have some cases of “angelic pregnancy” to serve in his divine plan of salvation, not breaking the natural law of marriage and family as the local ecclesiastical authorities had claimed.
When speaking of an “angelic pregnancy” many people reacted and considered: absurd! How can angels come to earth to become humans? Then, conceived without having a conjugal relationship? God would never do such! Mary alone was conceived by the power of the Holy Spirit. That was a case of the past; it cannot happen today… When people have these thoughts, are they not committing the sin of pride? They self-claimed to be all-knowing, then framing God within the framework of our limited understanding, not allowing God freely to do what he wants. Is it not that the sin that Adam and Eve committed themselves? It is the sin of wanting to be equal to God, in this case even wanted to be above God: not allowing God to do things that contrary to human thinking.
Issue 4: Many people considered that it is wrong that the House of God the Father addresses Mary as Mother of God the Father. They think that calling such title is wrong because she is only the Mother of Jesus, so she cannot be the Mother of God the Father.
1. The title “Mother of God the Father” is it a false dogma? Is it blasphemous?
To answer this question, we will learn about the Dogma of the Mother of God, and the main mystery in Catholicism, which is the mystery of one God in three persons.
1.1 Is Mary the Mother of God?
Since ancient times, there have been many theories, such as the heresy of Nestorius denied and considered that Mary was not the Mother of God since she only gave birth to the body of Jesus. This heresy advocates that “Jesus had two natures and therefore had two persons. Mary is only the Mother of the human person of Jesus, so she is not the Mother of God” (Ephesians Council). Muslims also deny that Mary is the Mother of God because they believe that Jesus was only a prophet and not God, so Mary was only the mother of “the prophet Jesus”. Protestant theology believes that Jesus Christ is God, but because Mary could not create the divinity of Jesus, she cannot be called the Mother of God, but only the Mother of Jesus. For us Catholics, are we convinced that Mary is the Mother of God? Even if Nestorian heresy, Islamic, or Protestantism deny that Mary is not the Mother of God, in reality, Mary is still the Mother of God. No one can deny that title, for Sacred Scripture and Tradition have given us all the essential proofs that Mary is indeed the Mother of God, and this is one of the four dogmas of the Catholic Church about Mary. The dogma of Mary as the Mother of God was proclaimed by the Church at the Council of Ephesus in 431. And the council also declared: “If anyone does not confess that Emmanuel is God in truth, and therefore that the holy Virgin is the Mother of God [for She bore in a fleshly way the Word of God become flesh], let him be anathema.” The creed is clearly illustrated in the Gospel of Luke, and since the second century has been extensively interpreted by the Church Fathers Ignatius of Antioch, Irenaeus, Cyril of Alexandria, Augustine, Epiphany in response to the heresies of the heretics of Gnosticism and Docetism. In 451, the Council of Chalcedon also proclaimed Mary the Mother of God. Saint Pulcheria, Queen of Byzantine, built two shrines to the Mother of God in Constantinople.
In 534, Pope John II proclaimed Mary the true Mother of God. In 553, the Second Council of Constantinople reaffirmed the dogma Mary the Mother of God. In 1215, the Lateran Council IV proclaimed the perpetual virginity of Mary, Mother of God.
The Second Vatican Council (1962-1965) taught: “Predestined from eternity by that decree of divine providence which determined the Incarnation of the Word to be the Mother of God…(LG 61). By reason of the gift and role of divine maternity, by which she is united with her Son, the Redeemer, and with his singular graces and functions, the Blessed Virgin is also intimately united with the Church… the Mother of God is a type of the Church in the order of faith, charity and perfect union with Christ”. (LG 63). On the 1500th anniversary of the opening of the council in 1931, in commemoration of the proclamation of the dogma of Mary, Mother of God, Pope Pius XI instituted the Feast of Mary Mother of God, set on January 1st of every year so that everyone turns to Mary as they enter the new year. Later, the Catechism of the Catholic Church No. 495 also confirmed that: “In the Gospels, Mary is called “the Mother of Jesus.” (John 2:1, John 19:25, Mathew 13:55). “In the Gospels “the Mother of Jesus”, Mary is acclaimed by Elizabeth, at the prompting of the Spirit and even before the birth of her son, as “the Mother of my Lord”. In fact, the One whom she conceived as man by the Holy Spirit, who truly became her Son according to the flesh, was none other than the Father’s eternal Son, the second person of the Holy Trinity. Hence, the Church confesses that Mary is truly “the Mother of God” (Theotokos) (CCC 495)
After all, the dogma of the Mother of God, drawn from the treasures of the Bible, has been deeply rooted in the beliefs of believers since the dawn of Christianity. It has gone through a long process and it became a common conviction of the Church based on the Scripture, Tradition, and the Magisterium of the Church. The dogma of the Mother of God is opened up to theological reflections and contemplation of the faith of all generations.
2. The Mystery of One God in the Holy Trinity
The Catechism of the Catholic Church summarizes as follows: “The mystery of the Most Holy Trinity is the central mystery of the Christian faith and of Christian life, God alone can make it known to us by revealing himself as Father, Son, and Holy Spirit.” (cf. CCC, 261).
So, as we can see: that the Father is God, the Son is God (because he existed before eternity, just like the Father), and the Holy Spirit is God (because he is as eternal as the Father, of the same nature as the Father). All three persons are God, but not three Gods, but One God in the Holy Trinity. This is the greatest mystery in Catholicism revealed to humanity by Jesus. This mystery is beyond human reasoning and understanding. The Holy Trinity is the only one God but has three different persons. God the Father is different from God the Son and different from God the Holy Spirit. The difference is different in relation: the Father is the Father of the Son, and the Son is the Son of the Father, the distinction is very clear. There is another difference in the origin: the Father gives birth to the Son, while the Son does not give birth to the Father; The Holy Spirit comes from the Father and the Son, not vice versa. Even though they are different, the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit are not three but One God. “The Father and I are one.”(John 10:30). One because all three share the same life, the same nature: “Everything that the Father has is mine.” (John 16:15). It is so close that: “Whoever has seen me has seen the Father.” (John 14:9).
3. The title Mother of God the Father
When referring to the title “Mother of God the Father,” Bishop Dominic said that Thien Thuong cannot distinguish the nature of the Son and of the Holy Spirit. Bishop said that Thien Thuong does not understand nor able to distinguish between person and being. So, what is the person and being in the concept of the Mother of God the Father?
In the mystery of the Holy Trinity presented above, it is clear that the persons are the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. The being, however, has only one being, which is the Divine Being of God. The question is: when the Council of Ephesus in 431 defined the Creed of Mary as the Mother of God, did the word “God” here refer to the being or to the person? If it is related to the person, the creed must be placed as the “Mother of Jesus Christ”, then it is related to the matter of the person and the being, but why does the creed say “Mother of God?”
If it is recorded as the Mother of God, then let’s try to explain it in a casual way as follows:
– The Father is God, isn’t he? Yes, he is.
– The Son is God, isn’t he? Yes, he is.
– The Holy Spirit is God, isn’t he? Yes, he is.
Therefore, the Father is God, the Holy Spirit is God, Jesus is also God, and the Council also affirmed the dogma that Mary is the Mother of God. So, if God the Father wants to call Mother of God the Father or Mother of the Holy Spirit, there is nothing wrong with the doctrine.
We can use logic to illustrate the title Mother of God the Father in a Theory of Syllogism as the following:
1. Major premise: Mary is the Mother of God (Dogma that Mary is the Mother of God)
2. Minor premise: The Father is God.
3. In Conclusion: Mary is the Mother of God the Father.
In fact, the title of the Mother of God the Father is not a false doctrine, but since it has not been used so far, it sounds strange to us. Although we profess the Holy Trinity when we call Mary the Mother of God, in our minds, Mary is only the Mother of Jesus. So, to say that Mary is the Mother of God the Father is considered a serious doctrinal error. But how to interpret the words of Elisabeth, who first called her cousin the “Mother of God?” For at that time she had not yet been revealed to the One God in three persons. As soon as the angel Gabriel received a command from God to announce to the Virgin Mary, “Hail Mary full of grace, God is with you…,” and when the angel Gabriel continued to Mary, saying: “Therefore the child to be born will be called holy, the Son of God” (Luke 1:35).
Then with her “yes”, the Word became flesh and she became the Mother of God. The “Hail Mary” is the prayer that we say every day, the prayer that Mary herself taught to Saint Dominic and all of us, also speaks with certainty about the “Mother of God”: Holy Mary, Mother of God……”.
Mary is a creature that has existed in the mind of God before all eternity. She is God’s new “Ark of Covenant”. In the Litany of the Blessed Virgin Mary, the Church professes that “Our Lady is like the Ark of Covenant”. This title has a special meaning. As mentioned above, when Mary said “Fiat” to the Angel Gabriel, the Word became flesh. If the ark of God in the Old Testament is venerated because it contains the “Law of the Covenant” that God gave to Moses, the Virgin Mary is even more worthy of honor, because she carried within her the Word that is not written or in symbols, but in the very Word of God, who from the beginning existed, as Saint John describes: “In the beginning, was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.” (John 1:1).
Issue 5: Considering the serious mistakes of which the main mistake is Mrs. Thuong writing the Word of God.
1. Mrs. Thien Thuong writes the Word of God:
The Bible does not propagate, the Catechism does not mention, and there is no provision in the Canon Law to permit it. Thus, Thien Thuong self-claimed and this leads to serious mistakes, the main mistake. If considered in black and white this sentence is correct, but:
In order to examine an issue or an event that is considered a serious error in the Catechism, we must look at its causes and effects.
The cause: God wants, and God uses the hands of Thien Thuong.
The effect: in terms of the consistency of the written Word. We notice that the words were written by Mrs. Thien Thuong begin with: “My beloved child” this phrase we find similar to the Old Testament when the prophets told the people the Word of God, they all had the sentence: “Oracle of the Lord”. To distinguish true prophets from false prophets, one looks at the actual results. For example, God sent Moses to Pharaoh with ten plagues. The Word of God written by Mrs. Thien Thuong also becomes a reality for those who practice exactly what God teaches them.
2. In terms of the content of the written Word and the effectiveness of the Word.
The content: The words have strong vitality because the Word has the power to make Satan convey the Word of God to teach people, the instructions are very direct, not vague, yet authentic. Listeners have to act promptly, and if they comply, the effectiveness takes place immediately. These words are not different from the words of Jesus in the Gospel, drawn from the Gospel and linked to the reality, the actual situation of the penitent, the patient, or those who in need of hearing.
The effect: Those who believe, and put into practice will be transformed, healed or strengthened to endure pains and always have peace and joy in the Holy Spirit.
The testimonies of the effectiveness of the Word of God written by the hands of Mrs. Thien Thuong:
2.1 Testimony of Mr. Paul Tran Le Thanh Quang – husband of Mrs. Thien Thuong
“I have accompanied Thien Thuong from the beginning. I witnessed from the first moment when she wrote the Word of God, started at midnight on October 28, 2013, up to the present, it has been almost ten years. I would like to affirm, that many times I have observed and studied to see if God really pushed her hand to write the Word of God, or it is interfered by the devil. Presently, I can affirm that God the Father pushes her hand. For the words are written by her hand can reveal all the innermost thoughts in my heart. I would like to share a few experiences: At the time I was building a new house at 53/5 Ho Tung Mau (the present House of God the Father), I remembered the 12:00 AM prayer hour that night, I was distracted, thinking about the construction. The very next day, when I walked out of the room, God pushed her hand and wrote: “My beloved child, I want your husband to pray fervently, without distraction.” I was surprised because last night, when I kneeled to pray behind my wife, so it was impossible for her to know of my distraction….
Many times, I wanted to tell my friends about the gift of my wife of writing the Word of God, thinking that if they knew and believed in God, their lives would be better. However, she did not want, she only wanted to keep the matter within the family because she was afraid people would not believe it. One evening, at 8:00 PM, instead of going to my bar (grand opened in November 2012), I went by myself to my friend’s house to share with him and his wife. When she checked the camera, she did not see me working at the bar, so she called me. When she found out that I was at my friend’s house to share with them, she was very annoyed and told me: “Why are you such a chatterbox! Telling them but they do not believe so why do you say it?” At that moment, I was very angry of her words. Thinking that night there would be a conflict between her and me about this matter. But when I got home, she did not say anything. I opened her notebook filled with the Word of God (because every night I reviewed what God taught her throughout the day) and found the following: “Your husband is doing the right thing; your husband is witnessing for me. Do not grumble at him.”
There is one special thing that many times I have seen my wife write the Word of God across the whole page without a period, or a comma, continuously writing without stopping. But when reading, the context of the text is not one word redundant, not a sentence is missing, and the sentences are very concise and meaningful…
Then, there were times when I was suffered, depressed, and under pressured from the government and the Church, but when I had the Word of God, I was again at peace.
There are times when we argued about different things, but when asking for the Will of God, most of the time, I was often correct. I affirm that all the things God has taught me so far have been for one purpose, that is, God wants me to become a good person, worthy of a child of God. All things are written through her for those who come to her for help by writing the Word of God are also for that same purpose.”
2.2 The testimony of Mrs. Maria Nguyen Thi Thanh Loan
“Thank you God for allowing me to accompany Thien Thuong since 2016. I am convinced that God’s Word written by her is true, and it is God who works in her with concrete evidences:
+ As for my own fruits: through the Word of God written by her hand, my life has been transformed for the better, more humble, and loving God more.
In all life situations, when facing difficulties and obstacles, guided by the Word of God through her hand, I was at peace; and everything was well resolved.
+ In the process of healing, when the patients had certain conditions, I could not raise my hands, but once the Word of God had been written by her hand, the patients promise God to do according to the his Will; Only then I was able to help them.
There were secret things in my heart, however the written Word of God also understood the inner intentions that I wanted to say. For example, when I went to ask Father Dominic to lay on of his hands asking for the blessing of peace, God gave me an angel, Thien Thuong asked for the Will of God for me and she said: “God named your child Joseph Nguyen Thien Phuoc” meanwhile Thien Thuong did not know my last name… At that moment, in my thought, it is true that God knows all things.
Fruits of the patients: through the Words of God written through her hand have helped many people to turn away from the path of sins and return to God. Many families seemed to fall apart have been mended, and those who have fallen into despair found hope, peace, and happiness.
One thing worth mentioning is the fruits of the Holy Spirit through Thien Thuong and her works. Before she was chosen to write the Word of God, her life was busy of making money and enjoying life, not sharing with anyone but her parents, because she thought the poor were lazy, they refused to work. After she was used by God to write God’s Word. God purified her and her life was completely changed. Her fruits of the Holy Spirit are love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, benovolence, faithfulness, gentleness, self-control, modesty, chastity, and goodness.
There are many witnesses on The Voice of the Truth video clips showing that she is a person chosen by God according to God’s Will, and God used her to convey his words to people in this era. Those who open their hearts will find a source of peace and happiness.
In short, the power and authority of God, God uses and chooses whoever is his Will. People have no right to force God to use a given person according to their own will. Indeed “For who has known the mind of the Lord or who has been his counselor?” (Romans 11:34)
Throughout history, we see that God chooses people not because of merit, virtue, or talent, but completely out of his love and mercy. Is there any theologian or philosopher who can explain the reason for God’s choice in his salvation history? Why did God choose an old man Abraham to be the ancestor? A conspirator like Jacob to become Israel? A selfish and stubborn person like Jonah to save the Ninevites? Why did God choose Peter who denied Jesus three times to be the cornerstone of his Church? Why did God choose Paul, who persecuted the Church of God, to preach the Gospel to the Gentiles? Why did God choose a demon-possessed sinner like Mary Magdalene to announce the Good News of the Resurrection to the apostles? And why did God choose Judas to be one of the twelve apostles even though he knew Judas was a money lover and would betray God? Is there anyone in the ranks of consecrated people who dares to admit that they are worthy of this noble vocation?
Many people considered that Thien Thuong’s writing of the Word of God is absurd, unreasonable, pride, and blasphemy, etc, because they looked down on her for she is just a mediocre and sinful person. We can ask here: if the person used by God in the divine plan of the House of God the Father in Bao Loc was a bishop or a priest, would things be different? In that case, would the ecclesiastical authority condemn, forbid, punish, and considered it heretical? We often judge others based on their appearance, but God, on the contrary, looks at the inner of that person. As Jesus said: “there were many widows in Israel…It was to none of these that Elijah was sent, but only to a widow in Zarephath in the land of Sidon” (LK 4: 25-26).
We can also question that: “There are plenty of talented and good women in Vietnam, why did God choose Maria Nguyen Chu Thien Thuong, Bao Loc to write his Word?” Who can explain this? Does God need to consult people in order to choose her to write his Will?
This era is the era of the activity of the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit is always flexible and active in the path of the redemptive works of the Holy Trinity. He works on the divine plan of salvation of God until the end of time.
With human thinking it is impossible to comprehend God’s way. People consider her self-claims to be used by God to write the Word of God. But, it is God’s intention. God used her to write the Word of God is true. The truth will be proven through her works of charity, exorcism, and healing. These works will testify how she is used by God to write the Word of God. And God the Father himself will testify by sending her into this world; she is used by God the Father in this era to cooperate with him in the divine plan of salvation, to help mankind escape from death through the influence and activity of the Spirit of the Holy Spirit; to bring people back to live in accordance with the Word of God the Father; to draw people back to the words of Jesus Christ. She never overlaps, replaces, or overwhelms the words of Jesus Christ in the Bible.
Issue 6: Cannot perform exorcism nor organize exorcism without permission; causing confusion in exorcism.
6.1 In the time of Jesus, who had the authority to cast out demons?
During the years of preaching, Jesus also casted out demons. Then, before ascending into heaven, Jesus gave the power to cast out demons and healing to the apostles, the seventy-two disciples, and to all those who believed in him: “These signs will accompany those who believe: in my name they will drive out demons, they will speak new languages. They will pick up serpents [with their hands], and if they drink any deadly thing, it will not harm them. They will lay hands on the sick, and they will recover” (Mark16:17-18).
Thus, this power of exorcism, Jesus gives to all who believe in him, without exception. It is a universal power, which is based on faith and prayer. This can be done by individuals or communities. Anyone who believes in the name of Jesus Christ can cast out demons. It was Jesus who gave those who were not members of the apostles the right to cast out demons when John said to Jesus: “John said to him, “Teacher, we saw someone driving out demons in your name, and we tried to prevent him because he does not follow us” (Mark 9:38). Jesus replied, “Do not prevent him. There is no one who performs a mighty deed in my name who can at the same time speak ill of me” (Mark 9:39).
6.2. The local authority considered that Thien Thuong exorcises demons in a manner of confusion, without permission yet still performing exorcism, is that right or wrong?
Based on the Canon Law and the Catechism of the Catholic Church, the authorities of the Church condemn Thien Thuong are correct. Because in the Church and in the society Satan is raging, tempting, and pretending to be God. They are witches pretending to be the Church itself. It has falsified the Church of Jesus Christ for the purpose of tempting man and making mankind to sin. With great care, the Church, therefore, instituted a ritual of exorcism based on the formula of the Church. Only priests appointed by a bishop can exorcise. This is the Church’s caution when it comes to Satan.
In order to increase the effectiveness of the Christ-given power and to protect the faithful from witches, talisman master, and socerrer, etc., the Church instituted a special ritual: exorcism. This ritual is only performed by bishops and priests who have been appointed to receive special permission to exorcise. Article 1172 states:
§1. No one can perform exorcisms legitimately upon the possessed unless he has obtained special and express permission from the local ordinary.
§2. The local ordinary is to give this permission only to a presbyter who has piety, knowledge, prudence, and integrity of life.
Thus, in order for a person to be able to exorcise properly, it is necessary as follow:
– Must be a priest.
– There is special permission (for each case) and obviously from the local ordinary. This permission must not be conjectured.
– The priest must be virtuous, wise, discerning, and prudent.
It is good for people to know this, so they will not fall into the temptations and traps of Satan. Because from time of immemorial, there have been many witches, fortune tellers, and psychic mediums. They also perform exorcism, but behind these witches and psychic mediums is Satan. When it comes to exorcism, Thien Thuong has also experienced and understood how it is perform in these practices. For the witches and fortune tellers casting out demons, the high rank demons exorcise the lower rank demons, but when they return, they come back in greater numbers. However, the witches and psychic mediums do not know about this. As a result of the conditions that have existed since primitive times in society or in the Church, the Church of Jesus Christ has always been cautious when it comes to exorcism. So, based on the laws, they forbade Thien Thuong from exorcism is not wrong.
However, the local ecclesiastical authorities do not believe in the work of exorcism that Thien Thuong, Father Dominic, and the other priests carry out. They were mistaken in assuming that the work of exorcisms at the House of God the Father belonged to the sect of Satan. Therefore, they banned the House of God the Father from performing or organizing exorcisms. However, our work of exorcism is to follow the command of God. Therefore, it cannot be said we perform and organize exorcism without permission, nor confused in the work of exorcisms, because it is the work of God, and the commands of Jesus Christ remains relevant to us today. (Mark 16:20)
God himself blessed the gift of exorcism to Thien Thuong, the priests, and to those who believe in the divine plan of God at the House of God the Father. The local ecclesiastical authorities did not give us this grace. We ourselves cannot exorcise by our own. Since God has given us the gift of exorcism, only God can take it away or make the gift productive in us.
Indeed, it is the fruits that arise from our works that will testify for us. This is the work that comes from God. God the Father himself will testify for us that all that we are doing is under his command.
6.3. How does the Church exercise its authority on exorcism?
Saint Peter said, “As each one has received a gift, use it to serve one another as good stewards of God’s varied grace” (1 Peter 4:10). The bishops are the successors of the apostles with the mission of evangelization, having the authority to cast out demons and healing. “Then he summoned his twelve disciples and gave them authority over unclean spirits to drive them out and to cure every disease and every illness” (Mathew 10:1). But have they utilize all their special graces? And currently is there any bishop conducting the work of healing and the authority of exorcism? In the Catholic world in general, and in Vietnam in particular, how many exorcists are there? In the 27 dioceses of Vietnam, have any priests been officially appointed to do this exorcism? As a matter of fact, the number of exorcist priests is very few, while the number of talisman masters is immense. So, people who are possessed and harassed by demons, who will they turn to for healing and liberation? Coming to priests, they are not allowed to exorcise, or they don’t have the power to drive out demons; in the end they are in search of talisman masters and as a result, unknowingly, they worship idols, denying their faith in God.
God is full of mercy. He always loves people and cannot bear to see them fall into the hand of the devil, so he sent the Son of God to become a human to liberate people and help them combat Satan. The more developed and civilized of the society, the more people move away from God and his ways. They live in accordance with the worldly ways and even more disastrously as they are no longer aware of the presence and activities of Satan. Therefore, Satan is freely raging, controlling, and mastering the bodies and minds of many people.
“In my name they will drive out demons, they will speak new languages. They will pick up serpents [with their hands], and if they drink any deadly thing, it will not harm them. They will lay hands on the sick, and they will recover.” So then the Lord Jesus, after he spoke to them, was taken up into heaven and took his seat at the right hand of God” (Mark 16:17-19). The Word of God must be fulfilled clearly in this era. There is a great need for people who believe in God, it takes those who dare to sacrifice themselves to the mission of proclaiming the Gospel, but more so evangelical messengers to carry out the accompanying signs that Jesus has promised “in my name, they will cast out demons.”
Issue 7: Without permission and schemed in the interpretation of the Bible, stubbornly criticizing the Church for not understanding the Bible.
To help people better understand the reasons leading to the above convictions of the local authorities toward Thien Thuong. I would like to excerpt from the letter she sent to Bishop Dominic Nguyen Van Manh, Local Ordinary of Da Lat on March 11th, 2019, and the orientation letter written by the bishop to her on September 29th, 2020.
* An excerpt from the letter Thien Thuong sent to Bishop Dominic Nguyen Van Manh:
“…The Bible is a treasure chest that contains all revelations. However, there are revelations that have yet to happen, and the Church is still waiting to find out. The Book of Revelation records a fact that is still unknown to the Church up to this day, that we are living in a New Era. This New Era, God releases all the demons from hell.”
“When the thousand years are completed, Satan will be released from his prison” (Rev. 20:7).
* Letter of orientation
Specifically, in “The Voice of the Truth” video clip number 4, she responded in an interview.
Interview question: The attached letter to the announcement number 2b mentioned “Many will say to me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name? Did we not drive out demons in your name? Did we not do mighty deeds in your name?’ Then I will declare to them solemnly, ‘I never knew you. Depart from me, you evildoers.” (Matthew 7:22-23).
She responded: “My beloved child, this Bible passage does not apply to you nor to your brothers and sisters. It is I who chose you and use you for this work. This Bible passage applies to those who impersonate me for their own gain or to glorify themselves…”
– In another part of the interview:
Interview question: The announcement from the bishop often uses the Word of God, one of which was “Whoever listens to you listens to me; whoever rejects you rejects me. And whoever rejects me rejects the one who sent me” (Lk 10:16). What would you say about this?
She replied: “My beloved child, tell the bishop that he has not lived like the apostles in the past, therefore this verse does not apply to you…”
Without permission and schemed in the interpretation of the Bible
Thien Thuong does not arbitrarily interpret the Bible nor stubbornly criticize the Church.
First of all, to explain not arbitrarily interpreting the Bible, let’s referring to the very word of St. Peter’s teaching: “Know this first of all, that there is no prophecy of scripture that is a matter of personal interpretation, for no prophecy ever came through human will; but rather human beings moved by the holy Spirit spoke under the influence of God” (2 Peter 1:20-21).
In the Decree of Council of Trent relating the printed editions and the use of the Holy Bible, the council of Trento stated: “No one is permitted to interpret the Scriptures differently than ‘holy mother Church.” Especially, the Second Vatican Council taught in the Dogmatic Constitution on Divine Revelation Dei Verbum defined that “the task of authentically interpreting the Word of God, whether written or handed on, has been entrusted exclusively to the living teaching office of the Church, whose authority is exercised in the name of Jesus Christ. This teaching office is not above the Word of God, but serves it, teaching only what has been handed on, listening to it devoutly, guarding it scrupulously and explaining it faithfully in accord with a divine commission and with the help of the Holy Spirit, it draws from this one deposit of faith everything which it presents for belief as divinely revealed.” (DV10). For the sole purpose: “They devoted themselves to the teaching of the apostles and to the communal life, to the breaking of the bread and to the prayers”. (Acts 2, 42), so that holding to, practicing, and professing the heritage of the faith, it becomes on the part of the bishops and faithful a single common effort” (DV10).
Indeed, the mission, the right to teach, interpretation of the Bible belongs to the apostles and successors, bishops, priests, and theologians. Thien Thuong is just a lowly, sinful, weak human being. Compared to the Church, bishops, well known theologians, she is nothing but just an ordinary laywoman like everyone else. She has never intended to bypass, teach, or condemn the Church. In the presence of God, she never had an intention of condemning the Mother Church. She did not arbitrarily interpret the words of prophets in the Holy Bible, “for no prophecy ever came through human will; but rather human beings moved by the Holy Spirit spoke under the influence of God” (2 Peter 1:21). The fact that God the Father used her to write the Realistic Word of God the Father was due to the grace of God who chose her, so she belongs entirely to God. How God uses her soul and body is up to his Will.
She does not interpret the Bible according to her own ideas contrary to the true meaning that Mother Church has interpreted. Because she was chosen by God to write the Realistic Word of God; therefore, God teaches her how to write and how he pushes her hand to write, then she does accordingly. She completely does not write on her own will, but according to the Will of God that acts on her body and soul. She only obeys to the Will of God.
On the other hand, in terms of the written Words of God by her, there is nothing contrary to the true meaning explained by the Mother Church, also not above the Word of God, but in the service of the Word of God, teaching only what has been taught, by obeying the Lord’s command with the help of the Holy Spirit. She is always faithful and in communion with the Mother Church by observing, practicing, and professing what was said in the Sacred Scriptures and the Sacred Traditions. There is no different, the only difference is that God the Father explains and makes it clearer than the Bible, the Catechism and the Canon Law when they refer to as mysteries and mentioned without explanation.
